How Should Elvish Be Sung?

Q: How Should Elvish Be Sung?

Bilbo Baggins from a 1968 Newspaper Illustration
Bilbo Baggins from a 1968 Newspaper Illustration
ANSWER: “Like Gregorian chants,” according to J.R.R. Tolkien himself in an interview he gave in the 1960s. It is one of my little secrets that there are many very old interviews with J.R.R. Tolkien scattered across the Internet. Some of these interviews have been transcribed or at least mentioned on Tolkien fan sites, but not all of them (unless you count my own references). But even I haven’t catalogued them all.

I wanted to write an article about Tolkien’s lost interviews, and yet no one has asked a question about whether such interviews might still be preserved, even made available online. While reading one recently I cam across the Gregorian chants quote. How Elvish should be sung is a legitimate fan question, although it was never asked of me. If I recall correctly, someone brought it up during an Elvish language lesson at Dragon*Con many years ago (I had arranged for some linguistic enthusiasts to do some panels on Elvish at the convention). I don’t recall what the panelists’ answer was.

Of course, the question also reminds me of Carl Hostetter’s essay “Elvish as she is spoke”, which is an appropriately scathing dressing down of much of the pseudo-scholarship that soaks the Web with nonsense. It is neither easy nor simple to create a good, reliable reference about J.R.R. Tolkien. I am constantly emending, revising, and even occasionally annotating articles here on my own Website because I discover inaccuracies, typos, incomplete information, broken links, and such. Sometimes I find an error many years after the fact, and I fix it as best I can. But out there on the Web many people are less meticulous, especially on the collaborative sites, the wikis and FAQs, the “dark side” of would-be scholarship, for they are prone to treat everything equally credibly even though much of what they mention is absolute pure nonsense.

And that has everything to do with how Elvish should be sung, for the question itself belies an interest among readers in what J.R.R. Tolkien himself wrote. It’s fun to speculate and I have certainly indulged myself in speculation from time to time (although rarely wherever my critics annoint me with speculation). One of my most popular speculations is the article that attempts to answer the question “How was Beleriand Destroyed in the War of Wrath?”. It was a question about the makeup of the armies in the War of Wrath (posted on another Website) that led me on a lengthy digression into the Deep Tolkien Web to find interviews; not interviews about the War of Wrath, but — well, it would take too long to explain why I set out on these epic journeys. Many you know exactly what I am referring to, for you digress into these epic journeys yourself.

The War of Wrath is one of those areas of Tolkien inquiry that provokes more questions than for which there are suitable answers. Everything is speculative, and much of it is circular and conflated, or just plain made up. I was amazed to see that Wikipedia, that most awful of attempts to document Tolkien’s fiction, posits specific numbers for the forces in the War of Wrath. And people insist that Wikipedia has standards. But I digress further.

To sing in Elvish as Tolkien sang it is what we all seek, is it not? And though there are many books and journals and Websites that attempt to bring all these details together, the details drift apart. For example, if you try to find the Daphne Castell article from November 1966, published in “New Worlds No. 50”, you will find excerpts but I — only I — know that it is fully published here. Rats. Now you know that, too. Now, maybe the full text is available elsewhere. I don’t know. This interview is the one external source for what we know about Queen Beruthiel’s cats, “external” to any books published by J.R.R. or Christopher Tolkien, that is.

Ah, but you are clever, are you not? You know already that the interview was republished by Festival Art and Books. Yes, well, sometimes you can find two copies of an ancient source of information. It is better to find three, especially if they are not simply replicas of one another (which is often the case). For if people have transcribed these old interviews by hands they will surely make mistakes, but two out of three sources may provide a more faithful telling.

With respect to singing Elvish itself, in the Castell interview Professor Tolkien says:

I had to posit a basic and phonetic structure of Primitive Elvish, and then to modify this by a series of changes (such as actually do occur in known languages) so that the two end results would each have a consistent structure and character, but be quite different. I have met very few (either in person or by letter) among the most intelligent who can distinguish between the two different Elvish languages, or see or feel that (say) the hymn to Elbereth is in an entirely different mode and prosody from that of Galadriel’s lament.

Of course, after decades of intensive study and debate, there are more people now who can distinguish between the two Elvish languages in the Ring (which is how some of these old interviews refer to The Lord of the Rings), but probably still far fewer than would have dwelt in Minas Tirith at the end of the Third Age (in my guessy opinion).

Here is a recording of Tolkien reciting “A Elbereth Gilthoniel” (composed in Sindarin). Does it sound like a Gregorian chant to you?

Here he recites “Namarie” (composed in Quenya).

Here is a recording of the friars of the Dominican House of Studies in Washington, D.C. performing “Salve Regina”.

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6 comments

  1. I’m a little surprised you didn’t mention the recording of Tolkien himself actually chanting “Namarie” [1], which seems to be what Donald Swann based his version on [2] (the story I’ve heard here is that Tolkien hummed it for him). This is now speculation, but I think Tolkien might have been thinking of this chant: [3].

    [1]: http://smile.amazon.com/J-R-R-Tolkien-Audio-Collection/dp/0694525707/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1415983088&sr=8-1&keywords=tolkien+audio+collection
    [2]: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=onbR23Kmcf8
    [3]: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bZUa7tqhELU

    1. Good point, and thank you for sharing the links. It’s just not possible to find everything you want to find WHEN you want to find it. 🙂

  2. Wow interesting 🙂 somehow I find this fitting though I think that in the end elves would have so rich cultural background for their poetry, song and music in overall that there would be several styles. I’m interested especially with this poetry (metric?) mode Ann-thennath as Aragorn calls it that is hard to render in Common Speech. Also I have a question concerned with elves but on different topic. How their elvish minds work? Or rather precisely how their memory works? Do elves have what we would call ‘photographic’ or eidetic memory? Surely there are some layers of that, and limits for example Legolas forgets some lines of a song of Nimrodel, but supposedly elves have great memory of lore and are slow to forget something once they learned it, is it also based on effort to memorize things?

    So the elves have better memory than Men? What are their full capabilities? Also is the fact that Legolas was able to count the eored of Eomer from distance just by looking, the sign of his mental faculty, or simply experience in estimating military numbers (though he actually says exact number even of empty saddles) is it numerosity skill and does it imply that in some areas elves have savant-like abilities? Did Tolkien wrote anything about that and the elven memory? Could you maybe write about that in full answer and if there are sources gather them?

  3. Of course, for the best example of the singing of Elvish as Tolkien intended can be found in “The Road Goes Ever On.” Swann had already set the Namarië text to music, but when he played it for the Professor, it was rejected. Tolkien hummed a chant melody, which Swann notated and used to create the setting of Namarie to be found in the published song cycle. Swann himself attributes the music of that particular song to Tolkien, and it is in the style of a Gregorian chant.

  4. Michael, have you considered archiving all the interviews on the internet? Websites could be discontinued any day and then we might actually lose stuff forever.

    Something as simple as saving a website as a pdf and then uploading that file to a cloud service would be all it takes.

    1. That would be a lot of work and I doubt I could do any better than Archive.Org. But I am sure other people have thought along these lines. Maybe one day someone will do it; or, if they have already, their work will be recognized by the fan community.


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